While the recent decline in first time unemployment claims is certainly good news, the fact remains that over 400,000 initial jobless claims have been made each and every week for a long time. Since the beginning of August 2008 to be precise.
That got me wondering how long initial claims were over 400,000 in the other severe recessions of the 1970s and early 1980s. As it turns out, in the 1973-74 recession, they only exceeded 400,000 for 1 year: November 1974 to November 1975. In the "double dip" 1980 and 1981-82 recessions, however, claims remained elevated over 400,000 for a full 4 years -- November 1979 through November 1983!
Comparing that with the time unemployment over 6% gives us the following graph of two periods of "hard times:"

In fact, unemployment stayed over 6% for all but a few months in 1978-79 for a full 17 years, from April 1974 to August 1987. That is certainly a portrait of a very bad decade, that we hopefully are not in the process of repeating.
But it isn't really fair to compare 400,000 weekly new jobless claims over a time period when population grew from 200 million to over 300 million. So I replaced that metric by dividing the number of initial claims by the population, giving me the number of people per 1000 who were laid off each week, and this is the graph that emerged:

This, second graph is the better one, since we are measuring both first time claims and the unemployment rate as percentages of population. And it paints a more interesting picture. Seen in this light, we have improved to the point where are having fewer layoffs now than we have had in about half of the last 35 years.
Notice too that by this measure, the unemployment rate and initial jobless claims track closely, with 2 exceptions. One is during the very brief 1979 recession, where there wasn't time for unemployment to rise very much.
The second time is right now. Unemployment remains far more elevated than is suggested by the relative lack of layoffs. In other words, the poor employment situation isn't so much that a large number of people are still being laid off, but rather that hiring for new jobs is close to pathetic.
It strikes me that this is of a piece with why we haven't seen new hiring keep up yet with real retail sales (as I described yesterday). I think I can pinpoint why. I'll put up a post on that next week.


8 comments:
Actually NDD, I would divide claims by either the labor force or the total number employed instead of population in general, but your theory should hold the same.
Nice analysis. I like the chart as is - layoffs per total population. Why not do the same for new hires as well?
Now THIS is why I keep coming back here even though I seem to be more Keynesian that you guys! Ripping apart the numbers like this is exactly how to gain deeper insight.
I'll admit that recent drops in unemployment claims have left me questioning my personal bias against accepting this time as a genuine recovery period.
Ironically, I'm sure, this piece leaves me more convinced that we are in a full-blown "lost decade"/depression.
I think the US needs higher import tarriffs to increase the cost of foreign-made goods to levels equivalent to the cost of domestic-made goods, or these numbers you just generated will not improve for a long, long time.
I'm not looking to exclude imports like some past tarriffs have done. I just want to decrease the difference between their stuff and ours. Personally, I'd be just as happy if they raised their minimum wages to eradicate that difference!
Thanks for these numbers, NDd!
NDd, how early can you take these charts back in time? I'd love to see these from the 1880's to present, but from the 1920's will do.
Ok, this is my last comment on this thread, and you don't need to publish it. I just want to say to NDd that I think you're onto something really, really big here. Please don't give up on it.
Do you have similar data for other nations as well. THAT could produce something truly novel and insightful -- maybe even something bookworthy! Want an assistant with a project like that?
Great post!
I am looking forward to the followup. Frankly I'm assuming it's going to be bad news but better to know than not.
I'll be interested in the follow-up, too. But I think you should follow SilverOz's suggestion, if only for a comparison with population charts.
Very informative post. Its amazing you have all that data. Great Job. Thanks for sharing.
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