- by New Deal democrat
There are major structural problems with the US economy -- chief among them, a yawning trade deficit that orthodox economics has no answer for; a lopsided accumulation of income, assets, and wealth at the very top; and a hollowed out former middle class. The road to reforming these imbalances would be painful even if political and economic geniuses with their hearts in the right places were at the helm.
I have said over and over before that the Progressive case is not Armageddon, it is Inequality, a pernicious, pervasive and incessant inequality of opportunity and reward that puts paid to the former American myth.
Doomers don't get it. Everything must be fed into the Doomsday machine. Every statistic, shorn of everything going up, is going down, therefore things are bad bad bad, and must necessarily lead to Great Depression II. Of course, we could still have GD2, and Prof. Krugman yesterday warns of the rising risk of a double-dip, appropriately so in my opinion.
But it ain't necessarily so. Ben Bernanke et al., have also read the books on the Great Depression -- in fact in the Fed Chairman's case, he's written one. So both the Keynesian and Monetarist solutions to GD1 have been tried with mild abandon in the last year (no, that's not a typo). They are bound and determined not to make the same old mistakes -- they will make new ones. Hopefully the new mistakes will not lead to the supposedly inexorable old outcome.
And so, yesterday, another Doomer myth bit the dust. November car sales were reported at 10.9 million vehicles, up from a year ago, and up from last month. This is the second increase in a row over September, and October and November have been the best months this year, ex- the 2 "cash for clunkers" months of July and August. In other words, the notion that the only thing that "cash for clunkers" did was borrow sales from the future, and we would have sub-9 million car sales a month for the foreseeable future, is yet another dead doomer black swan.
Not that they'll ever admit it. There isn't a week that goes by that I don't mention some news items that are contrary to my general take on the economy, and I always try to be open to the data changing my mind -- just as I was back in January and February when I noticed that consumers were coming "back from the grave" instead of spiraling ever deeper down into the endless abyss. But Doomers never have to admit that they have been wrong. They just move the goalposts, and move on to the next reason why Armageddon is upon us.
And if anyone in particular thinks this post is aimed at them, here is my challenge: find 5 times in the last 3 months when you have reported that data was positive. Not begudgingly, but with an accurate, neutral description. If you can't do that -- if you haven't been able to acknowledge that even 5 pieces of data in the last 3 months have been positive -- then you are ideology driven and are not, in fact, "reality based".
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The numbers are getting better, but still pretty terrible for car sales. Looking at the non-adjusted data, we sold almost exactly the same number of cars as we did last November, but are likley to end the year down about 3MM units from last year. Also, the SAAR is still well below the 1991 trough and that was with a much lower population. Again, I see this data as bouncing off of an unsustainable low level, but the question will be can it continue to churn higher towards the 12MM+ rate it needs to be at? Finally, I still believe that C4C stole from future demand (by design that's exactly what it was designed to do), but that the overall number of sales (about 750,000 I think) was never likely to have a huge impact on the future SAAR's anyways since those C4C purchases would have been spread out over many months.
SOz: Agree C4C took "some" sales from the future, certainly it took some from September.
I am responding to the meme published elsewhere, that that's all it did, and sales would plummet and stay below 9M for a long time thereafter.
Overall I like a lot of what you guys say and I generally agree with much of it. I call out a few things here and there as I see them, and bring in a few things I think are worth considering. Overall this is my favorite economics focused blog available via the tubes.
Do you see the "but" coming?
The "but" here is that your obvious annoyance with doomers is getting ... long in the tooth? :) Yes, we all know there are people who are going to say the end is nigh no matter how positive the economy factually is. There are myriad reasons for these people to believe these things, and they are not, largely speaking, acting rationally. We get that.
My estimation is that, roughly 30-40% of people are ideologues. They will believe what they believe because it brings them some kind of comfort. No matter what you say or do, they will cling to those beliefs. The doomers represent the 20% or so who think the economy is going down the toilet and will always think that until the end of time. The more amusing of them will rant on about the gold standard and the fed. On the other side there's the CNBC slavering fan boy crowd who will always think the economy is rocking.
Given that, calling the doomers out doesn't actually change their minds. If anything it's only going to reinforce their position because now they are being accused of being irrational. They are, but accusing them of it will just make them defensive. I realize that bonddad was ultimately driven away from DailyKos due to the large amount of doomer vitriol he received there. The good riddance tone of some people made me want to vomit. So I do understand what a pain in the ass these people can be.
However, continuing to point out the doomers just makes good analysis seem a little petty. It turns a good article into an "I told you so" moment. So I believe you'll ultimately be better off if you just ignore them.
You may disagree with me, but hopefully you'll just take this as the constructive criticism of a loyal reader that I intend it to be. You guys are well informed, provide great insights, and are "reality based" and that's why I'm here.
So anyhow, keep it up and don't let the doomers get you down.
Correct, New Deal democrat... specifically, a very highly publicized Edmunds.com report forecast 10.4 SAAR sales for November, vs. 10.9 actual.
I don't expect apologies or corrections any time soon.
I really like the work you guys do, but what's with this constant tirade against un-named "doomers?" Can you all at least drop a name?
Sterno, Kfunck1:
No offense taken. Be aware that some of those same people who spewed vitriol at Bonddad in particular do sneak in here and read our stuff. Calling them out (especially with no link to drive traffic to them) drives them up a wall.
It is, shall we say, a target-rich environment and it's wonderful therapy. Sorry to annoy you in the process.
@NDD LOL, understood :)
Ah, well FWIW, I found this blog through another blog (maybe TBP) ~9 or so months ago. I've never read the Daily Kos at any point, so I didn't know of that situation.
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